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[00:00:11] It's 2 o'clock and I'd like to call the [00:00:13] meeting to order for the regular [00:00:14] planning commission meeting uh December [00:00:17] 11th, 2025. Welcome everyone. [00:00:21] First item on the agenda is the flag [00:00:24] salute. And would uh Commissioner [00:00:26] Agugustini please lead us? Everyone, [00:00:28] >> please stand. Place your hand over your [00:00:30] heart and begin after me. [00:00:32] >> Slow down a minute. [00:00:33] >> I'm sorry. Slow down. Went too fast. [00:00:38] >> I pledge algiance to the flag of the [00:00:41] United States of America and to the [00:00:43] republic for it stands nation [00:00:48] indivisibley [00:00:49] and justice for all. [00:00:57] [snorts] [00:00:59] All right. Could we have a roll call, [00:01:00] please? [00:01:03] >> Commissioner Agustinini, [00:01:04] >> present. [00:01:05] >> Commissioner Beiel, [00:01:06] >> present. [00:01:07] >> Commissioner Gray, [00:01:08] >> present. [00:01:08] >> Vice Chair Bryant, [00:01:10] >> present. [00:01:10] >> And Chair Chanter, [00:01:12] >> present. [00:01:12] >> And we have a quorum. [00:01:14] >> Great. All right, we'll start with the [00:01:16] commissioner comments and I'll start to [00:01:18] my left. [00:01:20] Commissioner Gray. [00:01:25] Thank you, chair. [00:01:28] Uh, I have no comments today other than [00:01:30] to commend the staff as always for the [00:01:32] thorough and complete work they did. And [00:01:35] next, but not last, [00:01:39] back to you. [00:01:41] >> All right, Commissioner Beal, [00:01:45] >> no comments. [00:01:46] >> And Commissioner Gray, [00:01:50] excuse me, I'm sorry, Commissioner [00:01:52] Agustinini. Uh, just welcome everybody [00:01:55] back. It's been a little while since our [00:01:56] last meeting and happy holidays to [00:01:58] everybody. [00:02:00] >> All right, Commissioner Bryant. [00:02:03] >> Uh, no comments today. [00:02:05] >> All right. And I too wish everyone happy [00:02:07] holidays. [00:02:10] All right. And now we need approval of a [00:02:12] minutes. [00:02:14] Has everyone had a chance to read them? [00:02:16] Are there any corrections? [00:02:19] Okay. Hearing none. Do we have a motion [00:02:21] to approve? [00:02:26] >> I I'll make the motion to approve the [00:02:28] minutes. [00:02:28] >> Thank you. And a second. [00:02:29] >> I'll second. [00:02:30] >> And we have a second. Please vote. [00:02:42] >> Motion carries 5. Thank you. So, the [00:02:45] meeting minutes for October 9th have [00:02:47] been approved. [00:02:49] And now we'll go to the first agenda [00:02:51] item which is uh 4A [00:02:54] and the staff will be presenting. Uh so [00:02:56] would could we have a staff report [00:02:58] please? [00:03:01] Thank you chair chanter and good [00:03:03] afternoon planning commissioners. For [00:03:05] your consideration today is a tenative [00:03:07] parcel map number 39233 for a four lot [00:03:10] residential subdivision off of Clansancy [00:03:13] Lane. The case numbers are environmental [00:03:15] assessment case number EA25-00005 [00:03:20] and tenative parcel map number [00:03:22] TPM25-00001. [00:03:27] Today's request is for the approval to [00:03:29] subdivide 5.05 acres into four single [00:03:32] family lots with lot sizes averaging a [00:03:35] little bit over an acre in size. No [00:03:38] residential development plans are [00:03:40] proposed with this request. [00:03:44] The subject property is located between [00:03:46] Clansancy Lane and the Whitewater River [00:03:48] Channel about 400 ft east of Bob Hope [00:03:51] Drive. [00:03:54] The project site is zoned RE for [00:03:56] residential state and is surrounded [00:03:58] predominantly by single family [00:03:59] residences under the same zoning [00:04:01] district. [00:04:05] The subdivision proposed four [00:04:07] residential lots and two letter lots for [00:04:09] common areas, including a private [00:04:11] culde-sac street off of Clancy Lane and [00:04:14] landscaped areas. This design is similar [00:04:17] to the subdivisions previously approved [00:04:19] by the planning commission in 2014 and [00:04:21] 2021, though those approvals expired [00:04:24] because a final map was not recorded. [00:04:27] The project site is a relatively flat [00:04:30] north to south oriented parcel. Drainage [00:04:33] currently flows from the northwest to [00:04:35] the southeast and that pattern will [00:04:37] remain generally the same. Each parcel [00:04:40] will include a retention basin sized to [00:04:43] capture and retain on-site storm water [00:04:45] and surface runoff. [00:04:47] The proposed building pads will average [00:04:50] an elevation of 214 [00:04:53] ft. These elevations are compatible with [00:04:56] the pads of adjacent residential lots [00:04:59] and were selected based on the site's [00:05:01] existing topography. [00:05:03] The subdivision complies with all [00:05:05] applicable standards in the city's [00:05:06] development code. The resulting project [00:05:09] density is 0.94 dwelling units per net [00:05:12] acre, which is below the maximum [00:05:14] allowable density of one dwelling unit [00:05:17] per net acre within the res residential [00:05:20] estate zoning district. [00:05:22] Any future home construction within this [00:05:24] subdivision will be subject to the [00:05:26] city's development review process and [00:05:29] shall comply with all development [00:05:31] standards. [00:05:34] A concept a conceptual landscape plan [00:05:36] has been submitted for the common areas. [00:05:39] Because the entry has shifted from the [00:05:41] center of the parcel to the east, the [00:05:44] existing wall along Clansancy Lane will [00:05:45] be removed and replaced with a new 6-ft [00:05:48] tall off-white smooth stuckle wall [00:05:50] accented with vertical openings for [00:05:52] visual interest. The Clancy Lane Parkway [00:05:55] will be landscaped with six 36-inch box [00:05:58] uh desert museum pala verde trees, [00:06:01] Sanhill fruitless olive trees, and six [00:06:04] date palms with a 20ft brown trunk [00:06:06] height. Additional plantings in [00:06:08] including luganvia and new gold lantana [00:06:12] will provide color and texture. The [00:06:14] plant pallet features predominantly low [00:06:17] and moderate water use species and [00:06:19] complies with all applicable city [00:06:21] landscape standards. [00:06:24] The project has been reviewed for [00:06:26] compliance with the California [00:06:28] Environmental Quality Act. The city has [00:06:30] determined that it qualifies for a [00:06:31] categorical exemption under SQA section [00:06:34] 15315 for minor land divisions as the [00:06:37] project meets all criteria required for [00:06:40] this exception. [00:06:44] As a part of the project review, staff [00:06:46] routed the project for comments to city [00:06:48] departments and responsible agencies and [00:06:51] any applicable comments received have [00:06:52] been incorporated into the conditions of [00:06:55] approval. All a all agencies are [00:06:58] expected to provide service to the [00:07:00] proposed parcels. The proposed [00:07:02] subdivision is in conformance with the [00:07:04] city's general plan and zoning ordinance [00:07:07] and all applicable requirements of the [00:07:08] subdivision map act. Staff received one [00:07:12] written comment in support of the [00:07:13] project which is included in agenda [00:07:15] packet under attachment six. In [00:07:18] addition, staff received and responded [00:07:20] to one email regarding this request. [00:07:23] Those comments were distributed to the [00:07:25] planning commission prior to this [00:07:26] meeting. [00:07:28] Staff recommends that the planning [00:07:29] commission approve one the filing of a [00:07:31] notice of exemption pursuant to the SQA [00:07:34] guidelines section 15315 for minor land [00:07:37] divisions and two tenative parcel map [00:07:40] number C map case number TPM25-00001 [00:07:45] for TPN 39233 [00:07:48] subject to the conditions of approval [00:07:50] and based on the content and findings in [00:07:52] the staff report. This concludes my [00:07:54] presentation and I'd be happy to address [00:07:56] any questions the commissioners may [00:07:58] have. Thank you. [00:07:59] >> Thank you, Joy. Will the city clerk now [00:08:02] open to public comment? [00:08:04] >> Yes. Thank you. I did not receive any [00:08:06] speaker cards. Is there anyone in the [00:08:08] audience who would like to provide [00:08:09] public testimony on item 4? [00:08:12] No speakers. [00:08:14] >> All right. Thank you. We'll close public [00:08:15] comment. And now I'm going to ask each [00:08:17] commissioner if they have any questions [00:08:19] or comments. And I'll start to my left. [00:08:22] Commissioner Gray, [00:08:24] >> thank you. Um, I just wanted to state [00:08:27] that I'm familiar with this project [00:08:29] because a very dear friend of mine who [00:08:32] is unfortunately now deceased lived [00:08:34] immediately across Can Clancy Lane from [00:08:37] this project and we often talked about [00:08:40] whether it would be developed. I think [00:08:43] this also came before the planning [00:08:45] commission in a prior iteration when [00:08:47] there was some discussion about moving [00:08:49] the location of the gates and access to [00:08:52] the property because of the placement of [00:08:55] certain [00:08:57] um [00:08:59] utility boxes that were a consequence of [00:09:01] the undergrounding of this area. And I'm [00:09:04] sure most of the neighbors here are [00:09:06] tired of looking at an empty lot with [00:09:08] windblown sand. So, I'm uh I'm heartened [00:09:11] to see that we have a developer here [00:09:13] that is moving forward to try and [00:09:16] develop this parcel in a very exclusive [00:09:18] part of uh Rancho Mirage. And I think it [00:09:21] appears to be well thought out and well [00:09:23] presented. So, I'm in favor. [00:09:27] >> Thank you, Commissioner Agustini. [00:09:30] >> I have no comments. [00:09:31] >> All right. Commissioner Beiel, [00:09:33] >> I have no comments. [00:09:35] >> All right. And I'll just make one [00:09:36] comment and that is that it looked uh [00:09:38] very much in order and attractive, but [00:09:41] I'm sure Commissioner Bryant might have [00:09:43] some comments about landscaping. [00:09:45] Commissioner Bryant, [00:09:49] >> would I shock you if I had no said I had [00:09:51] no comments? [00:09:53] >> Yes. [00:09:54] >> Um, so, uh, I've been familiar with [00:09:57] Clansancy Lane for many, many, many [00:09:59] years. We have a lot of friends that [00:10:01] live down there. So, Sunday I took a [00:10:03] drive down Clancy Lane. not only to look [00:10:06] again at the property but the entire [00:10:08] Clancy Lane and [00:10:12] the first thing that popped out at me [00:10:15] it's important that this development the [00:10:18] frontage of it if you go down Clancy [00:10:20] Lane um on both sides of the street [00:10:23] there's a lot of trees shrubs u and it's [00:10:26] important that the landscaping [00:10:29] for this [00:10:31] uh blend in so it enhances is Clancy [00:10:35] Lane and is also close to the entrance. [00:10:38] So, uh that's very important that the is [00:10:41] consistent landscaping in front. Uh the [00:10:44] other one, uh there are a lot of weeds [00:10:46] and trash out there and u uh I I would [00:10:50] like to see that removed uh post haste. [00:10:54] Um and and are there any plans to make [00:10:58] that a condition to remove all the trash [00:11:00] and the weeds? [00:11:06] U I will address Commissioner Ry, I will [00:11:08] address your comment on the um landscape [00:11:11] or the parkway. Um the current property [00:11:14] owner did send a crew out um and to [00:11:16] clean up the parkway this morning and [00:11:19] remove um any of the um excess debris. [00:11:25] >> Okay. All right. Thank you. Uh, [00:11:29] of course I'm always going to say uh no [00:11:31] jagged rocks and cactus out front. [00:11:33] Hopefully again it will uh match Clancy [00:11:37] Lane. Uh there was a house there was [00:11:39] built in the early7s I believe and it I [00:11:43] don't know if it burned down or just got [00:11:44] dilapidated was torn down some years [00:11:46] ago. Originally though the house was on [00:11:48] septic. There was no sewer there. And [00:11:51] are the septic systems, tanks, pits, [00:11:53] whatever they are, are they still there [00:11:55] or? [00:11:57] >> So the house was burned down um around [00:12:00] 2011 and 2012. And that and the during [00:12:04] the during the demolition of that uh [00:12:07] structure, the septic tank was also or [00:12:10] septic system was also removed at that [00:12:12] time in 2013. [00:12:13] >> All right. Um the other is the is the [00:12:16] channel lined behind the house? Is there [00:12:18] an issue with the water district? the [00:12:20] 300 foot building restriction. [00:12:23] >> The channel is lined and so therefore [00:12:26] the 300 foot setback requirement from [00:12:28] the water district does not apply here. [00:12:30] >> Okay. All right. Uh and I guess this [00:12:33] would be a question for the developer. [00:12:35] Are you going to build houses or sell [00:12:39] the parcels for people to build uh their [00:12:42] own houses? What's the plan for that? [00:12:46] >> Yes, please come forward. [00:12:49] Thank you. [00:12:53] >> Okay. [00:12:57] >> The plan is to the plan's in flux. We're [00:13:02] designing four houses. And whether or [00:13:05] not they all get built at once or if he [00:13:08] sells them, you know, with with the the [00:13:11] lots, with the plans, he he really [00:13:13] doesn't know at this point. [00:13:15] >> Okay. All right. [snorts] Okay. Thank [00:13:17] you. Yep. [00:13:18] >> Um, again, I'm glad to see this develop. [00:13:21] It's a great piece of property and [00:13:23] Clancy Lane is a uh [00:13:26] a very nice area and so that will [00:13:29] certainly enhance the area to have that [00:13:31] develop rather than sitting empty. So, [00:13:34] those are my comments. [00:13:36] >> Thank you, Commissioner Bryant, and [00:13:39] thank you, Joy, for answering the [00:13:40] questions and for the architect to [00:13:43] respond. Do we have a motion? [00:13:47] I'd like to make a motion that the [00:13:49] planning commission approve the filing [00:13:51] of a notice of exemption based on the [00:13:52] environmental assessment case number [00:13:54] EA25-00005 [00:13:57] in pursuant to the California [00:13:59] Environment Quality Act section [00:14:02] 15315 minor lands division and two [00:14:06] approve tenative partial map case number [00:14:08] TPM25-00001 [00:14:12] [snorts] in parenthesis TPM 39233 three [00:14:16] subject to the conditions of approval [00:14:17] and based on the content findings in the [00:14:19] staff report. [00:14:20] >> I'll second that. [00:14:22] >> Thank you. And will you please vote now? [00:14:35] >> Motion carries 5. Thank you. All right, [00:14:39] we'll move on to the second item. That's [00:14:41] 4B [00:14:42] and uh the staff report. Uh, let's see. [00:14:45] Lesie, please give us a staff report. [00:14:51] >> Thank you, Chair Chanter, and good [00:14:52] afternoon, members of the planning [00:14:54] commission. For today's consideration, [00:14:56] we have the proposed Global Wildlife [00:14:58] Discovery Museum. [00:15:01] The project site is located south of the [00:15:03] Atrium Shopping Center, which is bounded [00:15:05] by Highway 111 to the west and Mirage [00:15:07] Cove Drive to the south. The site [00:15:10] consists of three parcels that will be [00:15:11] merged into one, totaling 6 78 acres. [00:15:15] The subject site had been previously [00:15:17] developed for the Chart House restaurant [00:15:19] built in 1978, which was demolished in [00:15:22] 2013 due to fire damage. Since then, the [00:15:25] project has remained vacant. Although [00:15:27] the restaurant was demolished, the [00:15:28] parking lot remains and will be [00:15:30] reconfigured for the proposed project. [00:15:35] The project proposes construction of a [00:15:37] one-story 21,967 [00:15:41] ft museum building which will require [00:15:43] removal of a small portion of the [00:15:45] adjoining hillside. Since the structure [00:15:47] exceeds the 20ft height limit, an extra [00:15:50] 2 ft of setback is required for each [00:15:52] additional foot of height. This results [00:15:54] in a minimum required front setback of [00:15:57] 53 feet and a required side setback of [00:15:59] 40 ft. The pro the project proposes a [00:16:02] front setback of approximately 80 ft and [00:16:04] a side setback of approximately 64 feet [00:16:07] which exceeds the setback requirements. [00:16:11] Access to the proposed development will [00:16:13] continue to use the existing 33 foot [00:16:15] wide driveway off Highway 111 which will [00:16:18] connect directly to the museum's front [00:16:20] plaza. A secondary signalized driveway [00:16:22] on Atriumway is located about 320 ft [00:16:26] north of the 33 foot drive 33 foot wide [00:16:29] driveway. To serve the new overflow [00:16:31] parking lot, an 8-ft sidewalk shown in [00:16:34] green, and a new driveway will be added [00:16:36] along Mirage Cove Drive. Pedestrians [00:16:39] will be able to reach the overflow [00:16:40] parking lot using either the existing [00:16:42] Highway 111 sidewalk or a proposed [00:16:45] nature pathway shown in purple. The main [00:16:48] parking lot provides 89 parking spaces [00:16:50] and the overflow parking lot provides 16 [00:16:53] parking spaces which includes four bus [00:16:55] parking spaces. The bus parking spaces [00:16:58] are 10 and 1/2 ft from the eastern [00:17:00] property line. Five ADA parking spaces [00:17:03] are located in the main parking lot and [00:17:05] one ADA parking space is in the overflow [00:17:07] parking lot. [00:17:10] The floor plan depicts several exhibit [00:17:12] spaces. No live animals will be included [00:17:14] in the exhibits and the exhibits will [00:17:16] showcase replicas of the animals [00:17:18] environment. The museum will feature a [00:17:20] lobby, flexible event space, wildlife [00:17:22] exhibits, a gift shop, a coffee kiosk, [00:17:25] and administrative areas that support [00:17:27] daily operations and programming. [00:17:31] This slide depicts the proposed [00:17:33] materials. The material palette [00:17:35] incorporates earthy tones and natural [00:17:37] textures reflecting the museum's focus [00:17:40] on wildlife. The combination of plaster, [00:17:43] metal, and stone also creates a layered [00:17:45] facade with variation in texture and [00:17:47] depth. [00:17:49] The museum's finished floor slopes [00:17:52] gradually from south to north, which [00:17:54] follows the natural exterior grade and [00:17:56] meets the lower elevation. The north end [00:17:58] of the building reaches a maximum height [00:18:00] of 35 ft from the lower elevation. At [00:18:03] the south end, near the front entrance, [00:18:05] the cantal levered roof line reaches a [00:18:07] maximum height of 34 ft. This roof line [00:18:10] will showcase a fox metal finish and a [00:18:11] rusted iron hue, adding a distinctive [00:18:14] touch to the overall design. Clear, stur [00:18:16] windows will be strategically placed [00:18:18] throughout the building to frame views [00:18:19] of the ridge line and bring natural [00:18:21] light into the interior. The windows and [00:18:24] door frames will be crafted from dark [00:18:26] bronze anodized metal. Exterior [00:18:28] materials include warm tone stone stone [00:18:31] veneer and laser cut aluminum accents. [00:18:33] The building's design will incorporate [00:18:35] various wall heights, creating dynamic [00:18:37] vertical and horizontal planes. The [00:18:39] layered facade will incorporate warm and [00:18:42] dark gray plaster, porcelain tile with a [00:18:44] maple brown wood finish, a mural wall, [00:18:47] and rusted iron fox metal panels. [00:18:52] The east portion of the building will be [00:18:54] tucked into the adjoining mountain [00:18:55] hillside. Similar to the front entrance, [00:18:58] the back of the building will contain [00:18:59] dark bronze anodized metal windows and a [00:19:02] fox metal roof line in a rusted iron [00:19:04] color. The maximum height is 33 ft from [00:19:07] the lower elevation. [00:19:11] This slide shows the north and south [00:19:12] elevation viewpoints of the building. [00:19:14] The south elevation will blend in with [00:19:16] the mountain slope and will not be [00:19:18] visible from Mirage Cove Drive. This [00:19:20] facade features window glazing, the [00:19:22] rustered iron roof line, and laser cut [00:19:24] aluminum as accents. On the north side, [00:19:27] a dedicated service area is attached to [00:19:29] the museum. It is screened by an 8ft [00:19:31] high cement plaster wall measured from [00:19:34] the higher elevation. The wall will be [00:19:36] painted a warm beige color with a custom [00:19:38] mural proposed in the future. Additional [00:19:40] accent materials include a rusted iron [00:19:43] plastered wall, warm and dark gray [00:19:45] plastered walls, and a rusted laser cut [00:19:47] aluminum wall. [00:19:50] This slide illustrates the conceptual [00:19:52] landscape plan. One artificial bobab [00:19:54] tree will be placed near the front [00:19:55] outdoor plaza which is anticipated to be [00:19:58] approximately 20 ft 25 ft tall. Along [00:20:02] Highway 111, a total of 42 new trees are [00:20:05] proposed, which include 17 48 inch box [00:20:09] desert museum polar Verde trees, five [00:20:11] 36-in box tipple trees, three 24in box [00:20:15] sweet acacas, eight 15t date palms, and [00:20:19] nine 15 ft California palms. 18 existing [00:20:23] filera palms will remain, which brings [00:20:25] the total to 60 trees. Along Mirage Cove [00:20:28] Drive, three 48inch box desert museum [00:20:31] poliver trees are proposed along the [00:20:33] landscape parkway with additional trees [00:20:35] located within the parking area. Along [00:20:38] the eastern property line next to the [00:20:40] bus parking spaces, there is an existing [00:20:42] 4ft high retaining block wall. This area [00:20:45] will be screened with seven 48 in box [00:20:48] desert museum poliver trees and five [00:20:50] 36inch box tipple trees. The planting [00:20:53] palette features red bird of paradise, [00:20:56] gold and purple, gold and purple [00:20:58] antennas, and Mexican feathered grass. [00:21:00] The plan includes 865 shrubs and 239 [00:21:05] accent plants with 7% of shrubs in 15 [00:21:08] gallon sizes and 93% in 5 gallon sizes. [00:21:12] The covered ground will be Indiana gold [00:21:14] crushed rock, 3/8 in in size, and the [00:21:17] meandering nature pathway will be made [00:21:19] of decomposed granite. Accent materials [00:21:22] along the pathway will include four to [00:21:24] eight inch Baja custa rubble, glass, and [00:21:26] flag stone pieces. [00:21:29] The applicant is proposing three [00:21:31] different types of light fixtures which [00:21:33] include a double head, single head, and [00:21:35] indirect lighting poles. The single and [00:21:37] double head light fixtures will be [00:21:39] installed in the parking lot areas, and [00:21:41] the indirect lighting poles will be [00:21:43] installed along the the walking nature [00:21:45] pathway. All freestanding light fixtures [00:21:48] will be painted brown to match the [00:21:49] existing light poles in the atrium [00:21:51] shopping center. The indirect light [00:21:53] poles are 12 ft in height and the rest [00:21:56] of the light fixtures are conditioned to [00:21:58] be 16 ft for the light fixtures that are [00:22:00] adjacent to the residential uses. [00:22:04] The project was evaluated under cal [00:22:06] under the California Environmental [00:22:08] Quality Act and the mitigated negative [00:22:10] declaration was determined to be the [00:22:12] appropriate level of environmental [00:22:14] review. The initial study was circulated [00:22:17] for a 30-day public review period [00:22:19] starting October 13 to November 12, [00:22:22] 2025. The M andd analyzed potential [00:22:25] impacts across various environmental [00:22:27] categories with mitigation measures [00:22:29] addressing biological resources, [00:22:31] cultural and tribal cultural resources [00:22:34] and geology and soils. All environmental [00:22:36] impacts were found to be less than [00:22:38] significant. [00:22:40] The proposed project was reviewed by the [00:22:42] architectural review working group on [00:22:44] July 28th. The only request was to [00:22:47] provide a clear and accessible path of [00:22:48] travel from the parking lot to the main [00:22:50] entrance. The plans have been revised to [00:22:52] include a decorative ADA path of travel [00:22:55] which leads from the parking lot to the [00:22:56] front outdoor plaza. Public hearing [00:22:59] notices were distributed on November [00:23:01] 25th, 2025. Staff received one public [00:23:04] comment prior to agenda distribution and [00:23:06] additional public comments have been [00:23:08] received and provided to the planning [00:23:10] commissioners. Staff recommends the [00:23:12] planning commission make the actions as [00:23:14] shown on the screen. [00:23:16] This concludes my presentation. I'd be [00:23:18] happy to answer any questions. [00:23:20] >> Any questions? [00:23:22] All right. Thank you, Leslie. And now [00:23:25] I'd like to have the city clerk open to [00:23:27] public comment. [00:23:28] >> Thank you again. I did not receive any [00:23:30] speaker cards. Is there anyone in the [00:23:31] audience who would like to provide [00:23:33] public testimony on item 4B? [00:23:36] Okay, please step to the podium and [00:23:38] state your name. [00:23:50] Hi, I'm Diana Allen. I live in Desert [00:23:52] Bra, which is adjacent to the proposed [00:23:55] museum. Um, I'm wondering, I'm the [00:23:59] grounds and security chair this year. [00:24:01] We're a cooperative residential uh [00:24:04] community. Will we be able to work at [00:24:07] all with the um architect or the planner [00:24:10] on the area that's immediately adjacent [00:24:13] to our dog park and and our pickle ball [00:24:16] court, which is what it will be facing. [00:24:19] In terms of walls or protective um right [00:24:23] now, we have a chainlink fence in that [00:24:25] area. Um, [00:24:28] I'm wondering if that's a possibility or [00:24:30] if we can put in a request formally [00:24:33] because it will affect our our property. [00:24:36] The lighting as well may be shining into [00:24:38] our um homes. [00:24:41] >> Is there someone from the applicant side [00:24:43] that would like to respond? [00:24:46] >> We're still in the public comment [00:24:47] section right now. So, uh, if the [00:24:48] planning commission desires for staff to [00:24:50] answer those questions when the public [00:24:52] comment period is over, we'd be happy to [00:24:54] do so at that time. [00:24:55] >> All right. Thank you. We'll we'll get [00:24:56] back to that. [00:24:57] >> Thanks. And we're also curious, will [00:24:59] they be taxiderermy animals or replicas [00:25:02] made out of polymer or some other um [00:25:06] artificial and natural combination of [00:25:08] materials? We're all wondering. [00:25:11] [laughter] [00:25:12] >> All right. Thank you. Is there anyone [00:25:14] else who would like to provide public [00:25:15] testimony? [00:25:17] >> That was the only speaker. [00:25:20] >> Okay. Thank you. we close public comment [00:25:22] and I'll start with the commissioner's [00:25:24] comments or questions to my left again. [00:25:27] Commissioner Bryant. [00:25:34] >> Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm [00:25:37] >> Commissioner Gray. [00:25:39] >> It's not often I am [clears throat] [00:25:40] right. [00:25:40] >> It's not often that I am confused with [00:25:42] such an eminent authority as [00:25:45] Commissioner Commissioner Bryant, but I [00:25:47] am grateful for that. Thank you. [00:25:49] >> U All right. I have a few questions for [00:25:51] the applicant. Um I the project seems [00:25:55] for the most part well thought out [00:25:56] thought out well designed but I'm [00:25:58] curious about the genesis of this [00:26:01] project. Where is this museum derived [00:26:04] from? Who is supporting it? And where is [00:26:07] the you know where are the funds coming [00:26:09] to build what is a very significant uh [00:26:12] in terms of cost new museum on a [00:26:16] challenging lot. [00:26:20] Is anybody like to talk address that? [00:26:30] >> Hi, good afternoon. I'm I'm the attorney [00:26:32] for the project. I'm Robert Gillowand. [00:26:34] I'm a local attorney here in Palm [00:26:36] Desert. U I've been working with the [00:26:38] team to develop this beautiful museum. [00:26:41] Uh sir, to answer your question, uh this [00:26:43] is a foundation that is funded. It's a [00:26:45] very well-healed foundation. Um the uh [00:26:49] head of the foundation is a elderly [00:26:51] gentleman um and he is uh very much uh [00:26:54] you know excited about this project and [00:26:57] uh we we are all very excited about this [00:27:00] project. This is going to be something [00:27:01] very special. I think it's going to be [00:27:02] you know there's the big three I call it [00:27:04] in the valley the living desert the air [00:27:07] museum and the uh tram and I think this [00:27:10] will be added to that to be the fourth [00:27:13] big item here in the valley with this [00:27:15] museum. But uh I can assure you that uh [00:27:17] this foundation is well healed [00:27:19] financially and they're fully committed [00:27:21] to this project to move forward. As a [00:27:23] result um we have a very uh toprated [00:27:26] team that's been put together to develop [00:27:28] and plan this museum for this community [00:27:31] and it'll be a tremendous benefit I [00:27:33] believe to the community. I have others [00:27:34] that can m we have the architect of [00:27:36] course is here. We also have uh some [00:27:38] other uh museum arts who works with the [00:27:41] Smithsonian who's on our team. Uh, so we [00:27:44] can answer some of those questions as [00:27:45] well if you have any of those. [00:27:47] >> And what's the name of the foundation? [00:27:49] >> Um, the foundation is RS Foundation. [00:27:51] >> RS. [00:27:52] >> Yes. [00:27:53] >> Okay. [00:27:53] >> RSH. Mhm. [00:27:55] >> All right. So, [00:27:56] >> all right. [00:27:56] >> That satisfies my concern. Thank you. [00:28:00] >> Uh, I don't have any other further [00:28:02] questions. [00:28:02] >> All right. Good. Uh, Councilman [00:28:04] Agustinini. [00:28:07] Well, that was David took my first [00:28:09] question from the applicant was how [00:28:11] would it be ran and now I understand [00:28:12] it's a foundation and so obviously a [00:28:14] nonprofit. Um [snorts] the other thing [00:28:16] that caught my eye since I've been in [00:28:18] the valley the chart house was kind of a [00:28:19] staple occasion kind of a landmark. Um [00:28:22] [snorts] they did mention that I think [00:28:24] it was in the environmental report about [00:28:26] commemorating the uh chart house. Was [00:28:29] that talked about or put into the plans [00:28:32] for the for the foundation because it [00:28:33] was such an iconic. It's where I went to [00:28:35] prom, but [00:28:38] >> would the applicant team like to address [00:28:41] the architecture for the site? [00:28:49] >> Good afternoon. Uh my name is John [00:28:51] Vukick with Press Vuk Greenwood [00:28:54] Architects and uh we are thrilled to be [00:28:58] part of this uh design team and and this [00:29:01] this this team for this project. Um uh [00:29:06] in terms of your your question about the [00:29:08] the old chart house, um the chart house [00:29:11] certainly drew inspiration from the [00:29:12] mountain um in its in its design and and [00:29:17] we've done that as well. Um [00:29:20] we're we're so privileged to have the [00:29:24] this site because it has a a mountain [00:29:26] right on right on the property. It's [00:29:28] only one of the two spots in the valley, [00:29:29] I think, that have where the mountain [00:29:32] has come over on the other side of [00:29:33] Highway 111. Uh the other spot would be [00:29:36] the the cliff house over in Lita. Um, [00:29:39] and so we've we've used that [00:29:44] uh in in terms of our site planning [00:29:46] where we've actually nestled the [00:29:47] building into the into the site um much [00:29:51] the way the chart house did where you [00:29:52] can you can see the the mountain through [00:29:54] the the high windows on the east side of [00:29:57] the building and and we'll actually [00:30:00] reconstruct the mountain inside the [00:30:03] building. So, it'll come it'll come [00:30:04] through into the building and it'll be [00:30:07] part of what we use for exhibits. Um, [00:30:11] we've also uh created a a thin this thin [00:30:15] elegant roof line um that that sort of [00:30:19] butterflies [00:30:21] um on the building. and and that [00:30:23] actually was something when we were [00:30:25] looking at the mountain, we noticed that [00:30:26] it has a a very distinct saddle um where [00:30:30] the mountain dips down and then it goes [00:30:33] back up and there's a saddle in the [00:30:35] middle. So, if you look at it, what [00:30:37] you'll see is that we've actually uh [00:30:39] mimicked that down below with the roof [00:30:41] line of the building. [00:30:44] And then as as you as uh as Lesie um so [00:30:48] eloquently presented, we have a a huge [00:30:51] mix of materials and shapes that happen [00:30:53] under that under that roof line along [00:30:56] with with a lot of glass. So it's very [00:30:58] it's a very light uh building with with [00:31:01] a lot going on. [00:31:07] I agree. I mean it's a a resource a a a [00:31:11] beautiful looking project. Um, and I [00:31:14] hope for lots of success for that. Uh, [00:31:17] so those are my only comments. [00:31:19] >> Thank you. All right. And I I agree. The [00:31:22] architectural plans look exceptional. [00:31:25] Looks like a very beautiful building and [00:31:27] it is a spot that's been vacant for a [00:31:29] long time. It will be nice to have [00:31:31] something that's attractive there. Um, I [00:31:33] also think it's nice that it will [00:31:35] attract not only tourists, but it will [00:31:38] be open, I think, to children as well. [00:31:40] We don't have that many uh opportunities [00:31:43] in Rancho Mirage to have something for [00:31:45] children and a museum with animals would [00:31:47] appeal I would think to children. So [00:31:50] that's good. Um is there someone in the [00:31:53] in the room today who can answer or [00:31:55] respond to the two issues that our [00:31:58] previous public uh speaker asked about [00:32:00] with regard to security and types of [00:32:03] animals if they're taxiderermy or [00:32:05] otherwise. [00:32:10] >> [snorts] [00:32:10] >> I [00:32:11] >> I'll start. I'll take the part about [00:32:13] security and and lighting, I believe. [00:32:15] >> Yes. [00:32:16] >> Um and that's that's I think a a concern [00:32:19] that both Desert Braar residents as well [00:32:23] as small mountain residents have. Um, [00:32:26] I've um I've walked the site extensively [00:32:31] uh all around all around this mountain [00:32:33] and over the top and and um um there's [00:32:37] certainly a lack of security there right [00:32:39] now. Um um the the east side of the [00:32:43] mountain is is [00:32:45] um sort of a highway for for [00:32:50] transients and and nefarious sorts of [00:32:53] activities. Um [00:32:57] so in in terms of security [00:33:00] what I can say is uh first of all when [00:33:02] we start construction [00:33:06] this will be barricaded um right now at [00:33:08] the north end of the mountain by desert [00:33:10] Braar and at the south end there's a [00:33:11] portal where they go behind the behind [00:33:14] there that'll all be barricaded [00:33:17] for over a year during construction. Um [00:33:21] um so there'll be no ability for any of [00:33:23] that to go on. So, we're going to scrape [00:33:26] all the all the trash and and and extra [00:33:29] growth uh that's there away, clean it [00:33:32] up, and then we're going to barricade [00:33:34] it. Um um so there won't be any kind of [00:33:37] activity like that. Once we're done, um [00:33:40] we're going to have a security system u [00:33:43] with cameras and lasers. um the sheriff [00:33:46] will be notified if there are any [00:33:48] trespassers or or if there's any kind of [00:33:51] activity going on that shouldn't be [00:33:53] there. Um and and I can tell you I've [00:33:56] been working with this owner for for [00:33:58] quite some time now and this ownership [00:34:00] is is not going to put up with that. Um [00:34:04] maybe uh I'm going to have the owner rep [00:34:06] come up in a in a few seconds and maybe [00:34:08] he can he can emphasize how much they're [00:34:11] just not going to put up with that. Um, [00:34:14] [snorts] as far as lighting goes, um, we [00:34:17] have a phototric plan that that we [00:34:20] produced as part of this. Uh, the lights [00:34:22] that we're using are are LED lights that [00:34:24] are well shielded. um the phototric plan [00:34:28] uh was produced to show the levels of [00:34:30] light around the property from each [00:34:33] light fixture and and that there's [00:34:35] actually zero light that will spill over [00:34:40] the property line um onto neighboring [00:34:42] properties. Um so uh lighting is is not [00:34:46] going to be a concern. Um it it's [00:34:49] actually a a a plus because um there's [00:34:52] less nefarious activity going on on a on [00:34:56] a developed lit piece of property than [00:34:58] there is when you have an empty piece of [00:35:00] property uh that's dark. Um, so I I um I [00:35:06] could I could meet with um anyone who [00:35:08] has concerns later about and show them [00:35:10] in more detail about the lighting and [00:35:12] how that's not going to be something [00:35:14] that's going to be offensive uh off the [00:35:17] property. [00:35:19] >> Thank you. And is there anyone that can [00:35:22] respond to the question about the actual [00:35:24] animal exhibits in [00:35:26] >> in Yes. [00:35:27] >> Okay. [00:35:30] This is uh Paul Omode with the [00:35:33] ownership. [00:35:34] >> Thank you. [00:35:39] >> Good afternoon. [00:35:40] >> Uh my name is Paul Omad. I represent the [00:35:42] communications and marketing uh for the [00:35:43] museum and thanks for having us here [00:35:45] chair and commissioners and staff. Yes, [00:35:47] the the museum is going to showcase [00:35:50] animals from around the world. So it's [00:35:51] your chance in the Coachella Valley to [00:35:53] see something from through the eyes of [00:35:55] an animal throughout the world. Then we [00:35:57] brought in museum arts to design the [00:35:59] interiors for us. And so you'll walk [00:36:01] through literally different parts of the [00:36:04] world with animals displayed in them. [00:36:06] These animals come through a number of [00:36:08] sources. It's all from a private [00:36:09] collection uh by someone a longtime [00:36:11] resident of the valley here. Um the [00:36:14] collection is in fact animals that have [00:36:16] deceased in a number of ways. That could [00:36:18] be animal mortality in the wild or in a [00:36:20] zoo that come to us and they're [00:36:22] taxiderermy. It could be things that you [00:36:24] have been hunted by hunter [00:36:25] conservationists that are collected for [00:36:27] the purposes of display so that you can [00:36:30] learn from them. Our goal is and the [00:36:32] name is discovery. We want people to be [00:36:34] able to discover the natural world [00:36:37] through the eyes of the animals of the [00:36:39] world. And so that's what we're bringing [00:36:40] here to the valley. So the answer to the [00:36:42] question is yes. It is animals from [00:36:44] around the world. [00:36:45] >> Great. Thank you. I think that answered [00:36:46] the question. [00:36:48] All right. Uh let's see. Commissioner [00:36:51] Beiel, [00:36:52] >> no comments. [00:36:53] >> All right. And Commissioner Bryant, [00:36:58] >> well, u I can't think of a better [00:37:01] development, uh [00:37:04] that could go on the site if the chart [00:37:07] house burned down wasn't there anymore. [00:37:09] Um uh this looks spectacular. And as [00:37:13] gentleman, sir, I didn't get your name. [00:37:15] the legal council uh [00:37:19] there the uh air museum the the living [00:37:23] desert reserve uh very unique places and [00:37:27] in Rancho Mirage I think this is going [00:37:29] to be another unique place joining the [00:37:31] children's discovery museum the library [00:37:33] observatory Eisenhower medical center [00:37:37] and to have a development of museum of [00:37:40] this quality in our tiny city is really [00:37:44] something special So, uh I I welcome it. [00:37:48] Um uh and it sounds like, uh a lot of [00:37:52] care has been taken as far as the [00:37:54] neighbors, the lighting and all that [00:37:56] sort of thing. Uh taking some cues from [00:37:59] the old chart house where it was [00:38:01] actually built in the mountain so you [00:38:02] could sit there and eating. You felt [00:38:04] like you were in the mountain. And our [00:38:07] family over there, I bet we ate there [00:38:08] 500 times. Uh and so that was a you [00:38:13] know, very unique thing. Um, [00:38:18] and someone else mentioned uh there are [00:38:21] only two places I believe sir the [00:38:23] architect in the valley where the [00:38:25] mountain is on the east side of uh 11 11 [00:38:29] and that's here in the uh the cliff [00:38:32] house. So um I welcome it. It looks [00:38:35] fantastic. And one of the questions that [00:38:37] it seems like the is the baobob tree is [00:38:40] that the kind of the signature [00:38:44] uh if you will of the uh of the museum [00:38:47] the baobob tree [00:38:50] coming from Africa uh you can just you [00:38:53] don't have to come up just uh yes okay [00:38:57] uh so uh I read up about it uh it's a [00:39:01] very uh incredible tree they live for [00:39:04] over a thousand years. U and there are [00:39:08] only nine species in the world. Six are [00:39:11] in Madagascar. [00:39:12] Uh two in Africa and one I believe in [00:39:14] Australia. Um and I believe originally [00:39:18] they were going to transplant one. And [00:39:19] so I read and said, you know, uh the [00:39:22] odds of transplanting one and having it [00:39:25] last are very minimal unless it's a tiny [00:39:27] one, but if it's only four or five feet [00:39:29] high, we're going to have to wait for [00:39:31] 500 years for it to get any height. So, [00:39:34] uh, a a replica is probably the best [00:39:36] thing, but again, I I think that's a [00:39:38] wonderful, [00:39:40] what do you call it? A symbol of of this [00:39:43] museum and what you're trying to do [00:39:45] because those trees have not only uh [00:39:49] they're physical, but they have a lot of [00:39:50] cultural significance to the indigenous [00:39:53] people that are around them for all kind [00:39:55] of reasons. So, I think it fits in [00:39:58] really well with the story uh that [00:40:00] you're trying to create. Um so uh with [00:40:05] that um I live near there and so I go by [00:40:09] that area you know hundreds of times and [00:40:12] a uh I did talk with Mina and her team [00:40:15] Tuesday and again thank you as always [00:40:17] Mina for taking the time for all of us [00:40:20] up here uh to go through uh so many [00:40:23] things that are the nuances of [00:40:26] everything that comes before the [00:40:27] planning commission. Um, and so one of [00:40:30] the concerns I have is the is you're [00:40:33] going [00:40:35] um I guess towards Palm Springs towards [00:40:37] Frank Sinatra, you pass over Mirage Cove [00:40:40] in the turn-in lane. Uh traffic there [00:40:43] speeds through way more than the uh [00:40:46] speed limit. And I'm concerned that [00:40:49] people that are used to it, they're [00:40:50] looking at the traffic light that turns [00:40:52] into the atrium. And I'm concerned that [00:40:55] that's a someone's going to get rear [00:40:57] ended there. There's probably no room [00:40:59] and I wouldn't suggest a deceleration [00:41:01] lane. And uh so I would ask the city to [00:41:05] look very carefully should that be [00:41:07] closed off and let people right turn in [00:41:11] at the traffic light and then come [00:41:12] around uh and park. And there's plenty [00:41:16] of access for parking. Um, and then that [00:41:19] would also give you some more room for [00:41:21] your for [clears throat] your courtyard [00:41:23] or your people outside rather than [00:41:25] having cars coming in. But I think it's [00:41:28] very dangerous. And uh, we're going to [00:41:30] have an accident there. And again, I I [00:41:33] live down Mirage Cove, so I come up [00:41:35] there all the time as today. Cars when [00:41:38] the traffic light is green coming this [00:41:41] way to Frank Sinatra there, people are [00:41:44] going 55, 60 miles an hour. and uh when [00:41:47] of course the traffic is the highest in [00:41:49] the wintertime uh and that's when you're [00:41:52] going to have most of your visitors. So [00:41:53] I just think it's something that should [00:41:55] be carefully uh looked at. Um [00:41:59] so turning uh uh to the parking lot on [00:42:04] Mirage Cove. Um [00:42:10] there the parking lot there there's [00:42:14] really two things. one all the things to [00:42:17] develop that, but there's a vacant [00:42:18] parcel on the other side of the street [00:42:21] and I'm not sure who owns it, what it's [00:42:23] going to be developed. Um, but I think [00:42:26] it's important when we approve [00:42:28] something, we're looking down the road [00:42:31] and see what could happen. So, when that [00:42:33] other parcel gets developed, u, I think [00:42:36] it's important that those two go [00:42:39] together. And when people go on Mirage [00:42:41] Cove, it it's kind of an entrance, kind [00:42:44] of a monument, and it makes it look [00:42:46] nice. Part of the reason is if you go [00:42:49] down Mirage Cove, there are about 15 or [00:42:51] 18 parcels that uh infill parcels, if [00:42:55] you will, that are going to be [00:42:57] developed, single family residential. [00:43:00] And uh last week the uh the city council [00:43:04] approved a 16 parcel 1 acre subdivision [00:43:08] on the Peterson Road area. So there are [00:43:11] a lot of very prime parcels to be [00:43:13] developed. And uh if we think of again [00:43:18] each decision kind of has cumulative [00:43:20] impacts. That's why this parking lot is [00:43:22] so important, the landscaping and [00:43:25] everything else because the thing on the [00:43:28] other side, the other vacant parcel, [00:43:30] sooner or later something's going to be [00:43:31] there. Uh maybe a little park might be [00:43:34] nice, but still so when you come in on [00:43:36] Mirage Cove because uh the people down [00:43:39] there that will help the residential [00:43:41] development. So when people come in um [00:43:45] and [00:43:46] um so specifically on the lot I think [00:43:50] it's been said that there was concerns [00:43:53] uh and then we had a letter from one of [00:43:55] the residents in the small mountain [00:43:57] condominiums. There's a 4ft wall back [00:43:59] there and then there's a the tennis [00:44:02] courts and so on. Uh and I understand [00:44:04] there's no plans to increase the height [00:44:07] of the wall. Uh but the trees alone [00:44:10] there uh some of them a lot of them are [00:44:12] palveries and those don't make good uh [00:44:15] screening. [clears throat] [00:44:16] They're very beautiful and they make [00:44:18] nice monument trees but they're not and [00:44:21] I have a bunch of them. So they don't [00:44:23] make good screening and I would [00:44:26] encourage the type of trees along that [00:44:29] back part along Small Mountain [00:44:31] Condominium and along that back area [00:44:33] that are create a solid kind of hedge [00:44:36] type where you can't see through uh both [00:44:39] for the the visual for the people that [00:44:42] live back there, the noise and so on. um [00:44:46] uh [00:44:47] uh as opposed to trees that u you'll be [00:44:52] able to see through. And so if they're [00:44:54] not going to increase the height of the [00:44:55] wall, also if that's going to be an [00:44:58] parking area for buses, uh buses are 10 [00:45:01] ft high or 9 ft high or 10 ft high or [00:45:04] something like that. And uh so a taller [00:45:06] trees, I I think vertical type trees [00:45:09] that go up 12, 14, 15 feet would screen [00:45:13] all of that parking from the uh small [00:45:16] mountain condominiums. And then the same [00:45:18] thing is along Mirage Cove. I can't [00:45:20] tell. Is there a wall along Mirage Cove [00:45:24] uh uh from on on the side of Mirage Cove [00:45:27] and then you make the corner on 111? Is [00:45:30] there a proposed wall there? [00:45:33] There are no walls being proposed along [00:45:35] Mirage Cove or Highway 111. Um the only [00:45:38] walls are for the main parking area. [00:45:42] >> Okay. So again, uh not saying they have [00:45:45] to be a wall, but I think there should [00:45:47] be uh some sort of screening trees. So [00:45:50] uh it when you're going along 111, you [00:45:52] can't see into the cars and the parking [00:45:55] uh because it doesn't make a good visual [00:45:57] for people coming along 111. And over [00:46:00] time, the city has plans to make some [00:46:03] serious uh planning as far as Highway [00:46:06] 111, the whole streetscape and [00:46:08] everything else, and that would blend [00:46:10] into it. So, I mean, personally, I don't [00:46:13] like to see uh uh go be driving along [00:46:15] and be looking into a parking lot. And [00:46:18] it can be done with landscaping. It [00:46:20] doesn't have to be done with a uh a [00:46:22] wall. [00:46:24] Um the other question on that part the [00:46:26] billboard is that billboard staying or [00:46:28] is it going to be removed at some point? [00:46:32] >> The billboard will be remaining [00:46:34] >> be removed. [00:46:35] >> No, it will remain [00:46:36] >> and and is it on the is it a separate [00:46:40] piece of property or is it a lease of [00:46:42] that? Is it a lease a lease or [00:46:44] something? [00:46:45] >> It's not on lease land. Um but that [00:46:48] billboard is not part of the project. Um [00:46:51] it has its own easement for the [00:46:53] billboard. [00:46:55] >> So So uh but is it on the fee property [00:46:59] that uh that where the parking lot is or [00:47:03] is it actually a separate deed parcel? [00:47:05] >> It it's not its own separate parcel. So [00:47:08] um can we pull out the project slides [00:47:10] >> and we can have somebody from the [00:47:11] applicants team explain kind of that [00:47:12] billboard easement. [00:47:15] >> Hello. I'm I'm Robert Gilland as I [00:47:17] introduced myself earlier and good [00:47:19] question sir. As you know, there's a [00:47:20] very large billboard that's on the lot [00:47:23] that my client will now own. Um, [00:47:26] however, that large billboard uh is on [00:47:29] an easement that we don't have control [00:47:31] over. So, we have no ability to remove [00:47:34] it or take it off. Although, there is an [00:47:37] interest, I will tell you, from the [00:47:39] owner of the billboard because I don't I [00:47:41] think we would all agree it's not the [00:47:43] most attractive billboard and certainly [00:47:45] not in the city of Rancher Mirage. and [00:47:47] whatever we could do to revi remove it [00:47:49] or change it I think would be a big [00:47:51] positive. I think there's an opportunity [00:47:54] um that I'd like to talk with Colin [00:47:56] about um in further detail about what we [00:47:58] can do I think because I've had [00:48:00] extensive extensive discussions with [00:48:02] that owner of the billboard and they [00:48:05] have some ideas but I need to share them [00:48:07] you know it's not part of our project. I [00:48:10] have no control of doing anything other [00:48:11] than trying to bring an agreement [00:48:13] together to the city. Um, which would be [00:48:16] a big benefit I think to make it that [00:48:18] that corridor much more attractive. But [00:48:20] I think it's a discussion that we can [00:48:22] have and I'll and I'll talk to Colin [00:48:24] about that further. Okay. I hope I [00:48:26] answered your question. [00:48:27] >> Yes, I did. [00:48:29] >> Thank you. [00:48:29] >> And and thank you. I'm glad something be [00:48:31] look being looked at it. Um Okay. Um, [00:48:39] so now I guess going from the parking [00:48:41] lot walking to the uh the walkway [00:48:43] [clears throat] from the parking lot [00:48:45] over to the facility. Um, [00:48:49] uh, are there going to be any shade [00:48:51] trees along that walkway or will it be [00:48:54] out in the kind of the open sun, so to [00:48:56] speak? Are there any uh date palms or [00:49:00] something lining it to create shade on [00:49:02] that walkway from the parking lot to the [00:49:05] uh main building? [00:49:07] >> Can we pull up the slides? [00:49:17] >> Uh good afternoon. Um I am Chuck [00:49:19] Shepardson with HSA Design Group. We're [00:49:22] the landscape architects for the [00:49:23] project. We're based here in Palm Desert [00:49:27] and we've been here for over 30 years [00:49:30] designing projects throughout the [00:49:31] valley. [00:49:32] >> Um, if you're talking about the that [00:49:33] that secondary walkway that's connecting [00:49:35] between the overflow parking and the [00:49:38] main facility. Yes. [00:49:39] >> Is that your question? [00:49:40] >> Yes. [00:49:40] >> Yes. There are you can see there's [00:49:42] there's palveries [00:49:44] um towards more towards the west side [00:49:48] towards the entrance into the museum and [00:49:50] there's some existing California fan [00:49:52] palms that are right to the the east of [00:49:56] that that we're going to remain. So the [00:49:58] whole feel is to make it feel like [00:49:59] you're walking through a kind of a [00:50:00] natural oasis through there. Um, that's [00:50:03] why we've got the the the little accent [00:50:05] areas that have some some blue glass and [00:50:08] some um flag stone features to it that [00:50:11] kind of emulates another um design that [00:50:15] was done over on a median in Palm Desert [00:50:17] that the owner of this facility really [00:50:19] liked and asked us to incorporate [00:50:21] something similar to that too. So that's [00:50:23] the whole, you know, idea is to create [00:50:24] that oasis effect all down through [00:50:26] there. So there's going to be plenty of [00:50:28] trees to provide shade and everything [00:50:30] else as you're walking down that path. [00:50:31] Okay. Uh, hang up there for a second [00:50:33] while you mention it. [00:50:34] >> No problem. [00:50:35] >> Uh, again, it's just one of my things. [00:50:38] Uh, I noticed some of the places you [00:50:40] have the, uh, glass I call it or [00:50:43] whatever it is, [00:50:44] >> right? Recycled glass is referred to, [00:50:48] >> It's what? [00:50:49] >> Recycled glass. [00:50:50] >> Recycled glass. Um, my opinion, I don't [00:50:54] think that fits in with the overall [00:50:56] scheme of the the design, the beautiful [00:50:59] design of the buildings and all the [00:51:00] trouble and it is spectacular. I mean, [00:51:03] the colors and the textures and [00:51:05] everything and uh the to me the glass uh [00:51:09] actually takes away from it because [00:51:11] you're going along and you're it just [00:51:14] doesn't fit. U [00:51:17] my opinion uh and they use it different [00:51:19] places. I've seen it around here, Palm [00:51:21] Desert in the middle of the thing. Uh [00:51:24] so, uh I I just think it actually kind [00:51:27] of takes away because it it doesn't fit [00:51:29] with all the other beautiful things that [00:51:30] you're doing. So, ju just just an [00:51:32] opinion, [00:51:33] >> right? Yeah. We did a similar feature [00:51:36] over in the ina delpo in in Palm Desert [00:51:40] many years ago. [00:51:40] >> Yeah. [00:51:41] >> Uh where we created again another, you [00:51:43] know, oasis Indian canyon type of feel [00:51:46] in there. Um, and we did do some of the [00:51:49] the glass within the the um paving [00:51:52] material, uh, to make it look like there [00:51:54] was a a river running through there, a [00:51:57] creek if you will, to give it that oasis [00:51:59] type of feel. And we feel this will do [00:52:01] the same thing here in this project. And [00:52:03] we feel it's an appropriate spot for it. [00:52:05] >> Okay. [00:52:06] >> Again, it's an opinion, right? I totally [00:52:08] agree. [00:52:09] >> Yeah, just an opinion. [00:52:09] >> Totally an opinion, right? It kind of [00:52:11] goes along with the uh mine is big uh [00:52:16] jaded rocks. [00:52:17] >> Right. Uhuh. [laughter] [00:52:19] >> All right. Uh and then my last comment [00:52:23] uh in the courtyard looks there's a [00:52:24] water feature in there. A round thing [00:52:26] with a water feature. [00:52:27] >> Right. [00:52:28] >> Um is there uh it doesn't Can you bring [00:52:31] that up? Doesn't seem like there. There [00:52:33] you go. You got it up. Uh, do you think [00:52:35] that area is going to be pretty hot [00:52:37] because there are no palm date palms or [00:52:40] anything around it to shade or there's [00:52:41] no if people are sitting out there is it [00:52:44] going to be pretty hot out there? [00:52:46] >> I know your um [00:52:50] your rooftop comes out over that does it [00:52:52] not a portion of that? a portion of it. [00:52:57] >> A portion of it does it's not it's not [00:52:59] reflected in that [00:53:00] >> but but in the afternoon western sun [00:53:04] >> yes [00:53:05] >> beyond that plaza [00:53:06] >> right and then there's date palms there [00:53:08] that'll provide shade that are just on [00:53:09] the west side of that. So when the [00:53:11] western sun is there where that's the [00:53:14] most intense sun we have is the western [00:53:16] sun right [00:53:17] >> it'll provide shade in that and [00:53:18] hopefully the structure of that balbo [00:53:21] feature will provide shade from the [00:53:23] south end of it as well. Uh well, one of [00:53:25] the benefits of getting rid of the uh [00:53:27] turn in there is that you can put [00:53:29] landscaping [00:53:31] >> without having cars come in right there. [00:53:33] You can put some date palms or something [00:53:34] if you got rid of that turn in. [00:53:36] >> Right. [00:53:37] >> So, [00:53:38] >> we have four of them right there, you [00:53:39] know, adjacent to that other little [00:53:40] secondary walk that goes into that plaza [00:53:42] from the [00:53:44] >> um from 111 right there. [00:53:46] >> Okay. [00:53:48] >> Okay. U that that answers my questions. [00:53:51] All right. Thank you very much. And [00:53:52] again, uh, spectacular project u, and it [00:53:56] looks like [00:53:58] collectively you've been working on this [00:54:00] a long long time. Um, and it's going to [00:54:04] be a magnificent thing to have both in [00:54:06] the valley as well in Rancho Mirage. So, [00:54:09] I'm looking forward to seeing it there [00:54:12] and I'll be one of your first visitors. [00:54:14] Vice Chair Bryant, can I also just [00:54:15] clarify that there is an additional [00:54:17] condition of approval uh within the [00:54:18] staff report for block wall and [00:54:21] additional landscape uh to help screen [00:54:23] that overflow parking lot. It's [00:54:25] condition of approval number 37. [00:54:27] >> Okay. All right. Thank you. [00:54:30] >> All right. Thank you for your insightful [00:54:33] comments and uh questions, Commissioner [00:54:35] Bryant, and thank you for the research [00:54:37] on the Balbo tree. I felt like I was [00:54:39] reading National Geographic. [00:54:42] [laughter] [00:54:43] All right. Any other questions or [00:54:45] comments by our commissioners? [00:54:49] All right. Do I have a a motion? [00:54:54] I'd like to make the motion that the [00:54:56] planning commission adopt resolution [00:54:57] number 2025-PC [00:55:01] in parentheses next in order [00:55:02] recommending that the city council take [00:55:04] the following actions. One, adopt [00:55:07] resolution number 2025 [00:55:09] parenthesis next in order adopting and [00:55:12] approving the mitigation monitoring and [00:55:14] reporting program and mitigated ne [00:55:16] negative declaration parenthesis [00:55:20] SCH [00:55:22] pound 202510436 [00:55:26] for the proposed project based on the [00:55:29] environmental [00:55:31] assessment case number EA25-0000 [00:55:35] 003 [00:55:37] and two adopt resolution number 2025 [00:55:40] next in order approving preliminary [00:55:42] development plan case number PDP25-00003 [00:55:47] regarding the proposed global w global [00:55:50] wildlife discovery museum. [00:55:53] >> I'll second. [00:55:55] >> Thank you. We have a motion and a [00:55:56] second. Please vote. [00:56:04] >> [clears throat] [00:56:06] >> Chair Chanter, can you try your vote one [00:56:07] more time? [00:56:08] >> Oh, there it it wasn't appearing. Thank [00:56:10] you. [00:56:11] >> Motion carries 5-0. [00:56:13] >> Very good. [00:56:15] All right. And now it's time for the uh [00:56:18] public to speak on items that are not on [00:56:21] the agenda and you would have three [00:56:23] minutes each. Are there any speakers? [00:56:28] >> Sorry, I did not receive any speaker [00:56:30] cards. Is there anyone in the audience [00:56:31] who would like to speak on something [00:56:32] that is not on today's agenda? No [00:56:35] speakers. [00:56:36] >> All right. In that case, then I will [00:56:38] call for adjournment and it is three [00:56:41] minutes to three. [00:56:46] >> Thank you.